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              betheirvoiceseathechange
Just found this blog today- love this hahaha keep doing what y'all are doing! Who needs correct spelling, grammar or facts in an argument anyways? 😂

Thanks! :)

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              Anonymous
You might want to have a look at some of the comments from pro caps on this video. /watch?v=Fz9JfQwj8bc

Preserving some of these for future reference :P

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              Anonymous
Hello I was curious to know if saying something like "Some animals work well in captivity while others cannot" is a 'pro-cap' thing to say.

Not necessarily! In fact, I’ve seen many anti-caps say similar things.

Some animals are more suited to living under human care than others. The best example would be domesticated animals of course. They’ve been living alongside humans for thousands of years, and have now been bred and adapted for life with us. They are a good example of an animal that works well in “captivity”, in fact I would go so far to say as some of them would not survive if they were left to fend for themselves in the wild.

There are select few non-domesticated species that can also live in human care. Generally these animals’ needs are small - they don’t require large spaces, sometimes they are solitary creatures or only require a few other companions, their diets are easily prepared and habitats simple to maintain. I generally do not support captivity, however if it is essential to survival and the captive program aims to breed and release to boost wild numbers,I usually agree with it (also as long as the animals are treated humanely).

Then you get onto the more complicated animals. They live such diverse lives. Their needs are great, often too great to be provided for in captivity. They travel across large spaces, they live in big family groups, their diets are varied and difficult to prepare, their habitats are much too complex to be replicated in a small setting. These animals often include (but are not limited to) orcas and other cetaceans, elephants, big cats, polar bears, apes/primates, so forth.

When you have animals whose needs are far too complicated, you end up cutting corners. So because of your shortcomings, the animals suffer. This isn’t right, and it doesn’t teach us how to respect them.

So yes anon, there are some animals who can live in captivity, but then there are some who cannot thrive. I don’t think it is necessarily pro-cap to say these things, however even if you agree with the statement, that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t look at all captivity with a critical eye.

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              Anonymous
I also loved that about black fish. It showed that the industry is not just cruel to the orcas and other cetaceans, it is dishonest and cruel to its workers. They're not where we should be casting the blame- and we should certainly not be rooting on orcas to kill them, as I see people horribly saying this on YouTube.

Totally agreed!

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              Anonymous
Heya, I just watched Blackfish a few days ago and thought about doing a german sub and uploading it again. but I downloaded the movie illegaly of the internet and I guess sharing it would be illegal too? Or is it not?

Yes, sharing it would be considered illegal, but a german sub would be so helpful… perhaps just try uploading a transcript of the film in German?

I’m not sure if the official DVD is coming out with German subs or not… hmm.

But thanks for your offer anyway :]

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              Anonymous
I am somewhat pro-cap, more just an animal lover though, and I wanted to say that the people that posted these things are the bad bunch of us. They make conclusions about Blackfish without watching it. They come up with facts that aren't true like only whales from the wild attack or show aggression. Some of the things said in Blackfish are not true. Like 1% of wild orcas have a bent dorsal. In 1998 Ingrid Visser did a study that showed that in New Zeland alone that percent was 23 and 6.25 in BC.

Continued: I am not sure what the percentages are now days but wanted to share that info. I would share a link with you but Tumblr doesn’t allow that. Also I wanted to let you know that not all of us pro-caps are stupid. There are some that need to get a grip and do some research before they open their mouths and spout crap.

Actually we have read Ingrid Visser’s study, and you are incorrect. Yes, the percentage of dorsal collapse was around 23%, however that was unique to the New Zealand population alone. That figure has been misrepresented by SeaWorld for years, I honestly do not understand why Ingrid has not told them to quit it.

You also need to keep in mind that a lot of the dorsal collapse in NZ was caused by injury (impact with a boat, nets, etc) or illness, so these are not for the same reasons that they occur in captivity (how many captive orcas get hit by a boat? Not many I would assume).

However, if you wanted to apply that figure to the entire population of wild orcas like Blackfish did, it would be completely accurate to say that it occurs in less than 1% of wild orcas.

But thank you for your message, of course we understand that a lot of the quotes come from some of the bad eggs in the pro-cap community, however rest assured, there are a few in here that come from some “reasonable” ones as well… ;)

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              Anonymous
Any clue why are there so many procaps who hate Kalia?

Pro-caps tend to think that Kalia acts like a “brat”, but I get the feeling that they treat captivity like it’s some kind of soap opera - like these are all “house mates” living together and causing drama.

We shouldn’t romanticize these issues. The animals who behave this way in captivity do so because they are stressed, confined and have no way to really release their pent up aggression.

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              thessalonikecollection
This blog is amazing!

Thank you! <3

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              Anonymous
I hate animals and think they should all die. I'm procap can u quote me?

We have now immortalized you on this blog 5eva <3

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              Anonymous
I like to make banana bread a lot. im procap can u quote me.

Shit, keep sending in your quotes, they’re amazing.

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