Preserving some of these for future reference :P
Not necessarily! In fact, I’ve seen many anti-caps say similar things.
Some animals are more suited to living under human care than others. The best example would be domesticated animals of course. They’ve been living alongside humans for thousands of years, and have now been bred and adapted for life with us. They are a good example of an animal that works well in “captivity”, in fact I would go so far to say as some of them would not survive if they were left to fend for themselves in the wild.
There are select few non-domesticated species that can also live in human care. Generally these animals’ needs are small - they don’t require large spaces, sometimes they are solitary creatures or only require a few other companions, their diets are easily prepared and habitats simple to maintain. I generally do not support captivity, however if it is essential to survival and the captive program aims to breed and release to boost wild numbers,I usually agree with it (also as long as the animals are treated humanely).
Then you get onto the more complicated animals. They live such diverse lives. Their needs are great, often too great to be provided for in captivity. They travel across large spaces, they live in big family groups, their diets are varied and difficult to prepare, their habitats are much too complex to be replicated in a small setting. These animals often include (but are not limited to) orcas and other cetaceans, elephants, big cats, polar bears, apes/primates, so forth.
When you have animals whose needs are far too complicated, you end up cutting corners. So because of your shortcomings, the animals suffer. This isn’t right, and it doesn’t teach us how to respect them.
So yes anon, there are some animals who can live in captivity, but then there are some who cannot thrive. I don’t think it is necessarily pro-cap to say these things, however even if you agree with the statement, that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t look at all captivity with a critical eye.
Yes, sharing it would be considered illegal, but a german sub would be so helpful… perhaps just try uploading a transcript of the film in German?
I’m not sure if the official DVD is coming out with German subs or not… hmm.
But thanks for your offer anyway :]
Continued: I am not sure what the percentages are now days but wanted to share that info. I would share a link with you but Tumblr doesn’t allow that. Also I wanted to let you know that not all of us pro-caps are stupid. There are some that need to get a grip and do some research before they open their mouths and spout crap.
Actually we have read Ingrid Visser’s study, and you are incorrect. Yes, the percentage of dorsal collapse was around 23%, however that was unique to the New Zealand population alone. That figure has been misrepresented by SeaWorld for years, I honestly do not understand why Ingrid has not told them to quit it.
You also need to keep in mind that a lot of the dorsal collapse in NZ was caused by injury (impact with a boat, nets, etc) or illness, so these are not for the same reasons that they occur in captivity (how many captive orcas get hit by a boat? Not many I would assume).
However, if you wanted to apply that figure to the entire population of wild orcas like Blackfish did, it would be completely accurate to say that it occurs in less than 1% of wild orcas.
But thank you for your message, of course we understand that a lot of the quotes come from some of the bad eggs in the pro-cap community, however rest assured, there are a few in here that come from some “reasonable” ones as well… ;)
Pro-caps tend to think that Kalia acts like a “brat”, but I get the feeling that they treat captivity like it’s some kind of soap opera - like these are all “house mates” living together and causing drama.
We shouldn’t romanticize these issues. The animals who behave this way in captivity do so because they are stressed, confined and have no way to really release their pent up aggression.
Thank you! <3
We have now immortalized you on this blog 5eva <3
Shit, keep sending in your quotes, they’re amazing.